Here's how things are turning out - Not really because of Cesar, but he does always seem to have great tone, about a month ago I went in a big independent Music Store here, called Gelb, and bought a VOX pedal - tried one from the rack, got one in a box - took it home unpacked it, and plugged in, only to find this crazy short out whenever I rocked all the way back - took it back, traded for a Crybaby, which I kept for a week 'til a tooth started to catch and so I traded it in for a Budda Wah - which I have had for a few weeks, I don't know if it was realy that much better than the VOX but it is sworking better mechanically - On one hand they folks at Gelb were great, having me exchange for different pedals, but on the other, are these pedals always imperfect out of the box - even the Budda is clicking too loud - I pryed one of the two spacers out to quiet the noise, (which wouldn't bother anyone unles they were tracking live in the room... ) but it still clicks too loud.